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2001-2004 : D60LF

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The infamous 2001-2004 D60LFs.

This was the second OC Transpo order to use the maple leaf livery and looked decent on them. 

Seats: These are the exact same American Seating Innovator 850 seats as what you can find on the Inveros, ISL D60LFs, or Orion NG Hybrids nowadays. They are comfortable. Certainly better than the Orion V and LFS seats but not better than the Orion VI seats.

Engine/Transmission: These had Detroit Diesel S50 engines in the 2001-2002s and later S50EGR engines in the later 2003-2004 models. These sounded decent although were not the best choice for articulated buses.

Known issues: These buses were known for catching fire and being unreliable. They were also underpowered because they only had four cylinder Detroit Diesel S50 engines. This is why they were retired extremely prematurely and sent back to New Flyer in exchange for new D60LFR models. 

Second life: Some of these were sent to various transit agencies and they are still in use today. Some of these buses got repowered with Cummins ISL9 engines which are a much better choice.

 

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I remember the first series (2001-2002) in which the operator would often turn off the air conditioning when about to go up a steep hill to give the engine more power. This was frequently seen on the Bronson Avenue hill by Albert, and the run up eastbound from Lebreton. Also for those living in Orleans, the Duford Street hill behind Place d'Orleans and sometimes even Tenth Line Road.

The engines had a nice sound though, but the later ULSD spec'ed engines were better.

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17 minutes ago, Shane said:

I remember the first series (2001-2002) in which the operator would often turn off the air conditioning when about to go up a steep hill to give the engine more power. This was frequently seen on the Bronson Avenue hill by Albert, and the run up eastbound from Lebreton. Also for those living in Orleans, the Duford Street hill behind Place d'Orleans and sometimes even Tenth Line Road.

The engines had a nice sound though, but the later ULSD spec'ed engines were better.

They sounded nice but were unreliable. I recall riding one a few times (especially Canada Day 2010, oh boy was that bus packed) and maybe as far back as '06.

The Cummins ISL D60LFs are really a vast improvement.

The only reliable S50 spec'ed buses that OC had were the 1997-1998 Orion V because they rarely caught fire. They were also considered one of the more reliable bus models they had.

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